The first instance we have of him indicating his date of birth is in the 1896 marriage register where he stated that he was born in June 1, 1865. By the time of his 1914 naturalization record, he was using June 1, 1864. This is the year his children and grandchildren thought was correct. His eldest son's baptism record proves he was born in Wetteldorf, Germany, not Vittledorf as his death certificate states, or Nettledorf as his brother's death certificate states, or Schoenecker as my mother had written down (locations that do not exist in any geocoordinate databases).