Roger de Toeni I - Greybeard's Ghosts

Commentary

Cawley: "One of the most controversial issues regarding the Tosny family is whether there were two individuals named Roger de Tosny who were active during the first half of the 11th century. Keats-Rohan raised the possibility that Roger de Tosny who travelled to Spain in [1018] (shown above as Roger [I]), was different from a younger Roger de Tosny (maybe nephew of Roger [I]) who founded Conches abbey (shown below as Roger [II]). The same theory has been espoused more recently by Jaime de Salazar Acha, although his main purpose is identifying the wife of Roger [I]. The theory of two individuals is confirmed by the charter dated to [1040], which is witnessed by both "Rodgerii filii Rodulfi" (assumed to be Roger [I]) and "Rogerii de Conchis" (Roger [II]). The parentage of Roger [II] has not been ascertained, but presumably he was closely related to Roger [I]. The estimated birth date “[before 1038]” of Raoul [III], son of Roger [II], suggests that Roger [II] was considerably younger than Roger [I] and therefore may have been nephew of the latter. The fact that Roger [II] was ancestor of the later Tosny family is shown by two charters which record his descendants. Firstly, Henry I King of England confirmed the foundation of Conches by "Rogerius senior de Toenio et filius eius Radulphus senex et Radulphus juvenis filius prædicti Radulphi senis et Rogerius filius Radulphi juvenis", quoting the foundation by "Rogerius filius Radulphi Toteniensis" for the soul of "coniugis meæ Godehildis", by charter dated to [1130]. Secondly, Henry II King of England confirmed the property of Conches, including donations by "Rogeris senior de Toenio et filius eius Radulfus senex et Radulphus juvenis filius predicti Radulphi senex et Roger filius Radulphi juvenis", by charter dated 1165 or [1167/73]."

Family

Claim	Detail	Evidence
Father	Ralph de Toeni II, Seigneur of Tosni and Conches (e958-) [S775:XIIa.753] [S905]	research
Spouse	Godeheut (e991-)
Child +	Adeliza de Toeni (e1015-) [S775:VI.448] [S775:XIIa.753] [S905] [S2260:265]	research
Child +	Ralph de Toeni III (~1025-~1102) [S775:XIIa.753] [S905]	research

Attributes

Claim	Detail	Evidence
Gender	Male
Name	Roger de Toeni I [S775:XIIa.753]	research
Name	Roger de Tosny II [S905]	research
Name	Roger de Conches [S775:XIIa.753]	research
Father	Ralph de Toeni II, Seigneur of Tosni and Conches (e958-) [S775:XIIa.753] [S905]	research

Timeline

Claim	Date	Detail	Evidence
Birth	abt 990	France [S775:XIIa.753] [S905]	research
Flourished	1013/14	[S775:XIIa.753]	research
Flourished	1031/32	[S775:XIIa.753]	research
Flourished	1035	[S775:XIIa.753]	research
Death	1038/39	[S775:XIIa.753] killed in battle	research
Death	abt 1040	[S905] killed in battle	research

Sources

Index	Title
[S775]	George Cokayne, "Complete Peerage" (https://dcms.lds.org/delivery/DeliveryManagerServlet?dps_pid=IE83409).
[S905]	Cawley, Charles, "Foundation of Medieval Genealogy (Medieval Lands - Normandy: Alencon, Evereux, Meulan, Perche)" (2006-7 (v1.1 Updated 02 March 2007)) (https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORMANDY NOBILITY.htm).