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Adelais de Troyes
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Weis states her parentage is unknown.

Charles Cawley: possible "daughter of Robert Comte de Troyes & his wife Adelais [de Bourgogne]. The Historia Francorum Senonensis refers to the wife of "Karolus" as "filiam Herberti comitis Trecarum". Assuming the birth of the couple's eldest son in 970, this could not refer to Héribert, son of Robert, whose birth is dated to [950]. It is also unlikely to have been Héribert [II] Comte de Vermandois, father of Robert, who was not comte de Troyes. Settipani suggests that the Historia must be in error and that her father was Robert Comte de Troyes. This would not be the only error in this source, as the Historia also refers to "Karolus, frater eius [=Hludovicus], filius Hlotharii regis" when recording his "succession" in 987. The Chronico Richardi Pictavensis also names "Carolus uxore sua…filia Herberti Comitis Trecarum", presumably based on the same source as the Historia. Her name is recorded by Richer, who states that "Karolum…cum uxore Adelaide et filio Ludovico, et filiabus duabus, quarum altera Gerberga, altera Adelaidis dicebatur, necnon et Arnulfo nepote" were imprisoned by Hugues "Capet" King of France. Orderic Vitalis links the two sets of references by recording that Charles was imprisoned with his wife who was the daughter of Héribert Comte de Troyes. An interesting twist to this apparently straight-forward explanation is provided by another passage in Richer which refers disparagingly to Charles's marriage to "uxorem de militari ordine sibi imparem". It is difficult to imagine this description being appropriate to the Vermandois/Carolingian origin of Charles's known wife. Ferdinand Lot therefore proposed that the text meant that Charles was married twice. If such a second marriage did take place, it must have occurred at the height of the dispute between Charles and his brother King Lothar around [975]. At that time Charles was challenging his brother's authority to rule, and it is difficult to imagine that he would have weakened his own position by contracting an unequal marriage. On the basis of the primary sources so far consulted, it is felt that there is insufficient basis for concluding that Duke Charles married twice. The comment by Richer could presumably be explained by his personal dislike of the Vermandois family."
Family
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SpouseCharles, Duke of Lower Lorraine (953-991) 
Child +Ermengarde of Lorraine (~970-) [S756] [S957]
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Child +Gergerge de Lorraine (~975-) [S756] [S957]
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Attributes
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GenderFemale
NameAdelais de Troyes [S957] [S2719] [S3190]
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NameAdelheid [S756]
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Timeline
ClaimDateDetailAgeEvidence
Birth 950 - 955France [S3190]
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Marriageabt 970Charles, Duke of Lower Lorraine (953-991) [S957]
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Living991 [S3190]
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Sources
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[S756] Weis, Frederick Lewis, "Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists Who Came To New England before 1700, 7th Ed." (Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, 1999).
[S957] Cawley, Charles, "Foundation of Medieval Genealogy (Medieval Lands - Lotharingia)" (2006-7 (v1.1 Updated 04 September 2006)) (https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIA.htm).
[S2719] Cawley, Charles, "Foundation of Medieval Genealogy (Medieval Lands - Brabant & Louvain)" (v4.5 Updated 11 October 2019) (https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/BRABANT, LOUVAIN.htm).
[S3190] Cawley, Charles, "Foundation of Medieval Genealogy (Medieval Lands - Champagne: Troyes)" (https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/chamtroyes.htm).
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