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Robert I, Comte de Namur
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Commentary
Charles Cawley: "According to Europäische Stammtafeln, Robert was the son of Berengar. However, the only evidence so far identified that Robert may have been a descendant of Berengar is provided by the Vita Gerardi Abbatis Broniense which records that "comes Berengarius Nammucensi castro præsidebat" commenting that "cuius stirpis posteritas ibidem hactenus perstat". This convoluted reference suggests that the relationship may have been less direct than father/son: maybe Robert was Berengar's grandson, the son of Berengar's daughter. This appears to be corroborated by the chronology of the births in the family. If Giselbert, son of Robert [I], was born in [955/60], it is unlikely that his father was born before [920/25] at the earliest, bearing in mind that he was presumably an adult at the time of the 946 charter. Assuming that the birth date range of Berengar is correct as shown above, Robert would most likely have been born earlier than this if he had been Berengar's son. The fact that Robert named his second son Giselbert also suggests a family connection with Berengar, whose wife was the sister of Giselbert Duke of Lotharingia, although it is somewhat surprising that the name Berengar itself is not repeated among Robert's descendants. Another indication of Robert's family background is provided by the Gesta Abbatum Gemblacensium which names "Rotbertus…comes Namucensis" as the most powerful of the "cæteri fratres et nepotes pii patris nostri [Wicperti]", while recording that he oppressed the abbey of Gembloux. If this is correct, Robert's maternal grandmother was Osburga, whose first husband was St Wicbert's father."
Cawley: "The name of the wife of Robert is not known. Thierry Stasser suggests that she may have been [Liutgarde], daughter of Adalbert Graf [von Metz], emphasising that this is purely speculative based only on onomastics"
Family
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Child +Albert I Comte de Namur (e969-<1011) [S756] [S928]
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Attributes
ClaimDetailEvidence
GenderMale
NameRobert I, Comte de Namur [S928]
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NameRobert I, Count of Lomme [S756]
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Timeline
ClaimDateDetailAgeEvidence
Birth 920 - 925France [S928]
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FlourishedJun 2, 946 [S928]
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Deathbef 981 [S928]
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Sources
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[S756] Weis, Frederick Lewis, "Ancestral Roots of Sixty Colonists Who Came To New England before 1700, 7th Ed." (Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, 1999).
[S928] Cawley, Charles, "Foundation of Medieval Genealogy (Medieval Lands - Namur)" (2006-7 (v1.1 Updated 11 November 2006)) (https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NAMUR.htm).
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